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chiczimo Friend |
posted 03 February 2001 08:01
  
I am considering buying some zoysia grass plugs through the mail from a company called zoysia farm nurseries in MD. Does anyone out there have any experience dealing with this company and its product? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. IP: Logged |
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reneem unregistered |
posted 04 February 2001 10:17
2nd that ?. I was thinking the same thing just this morning. I'm located in Central Florida to be more specific and wondering if anybody could give some feed back on this product. IP: Logged |
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seed Editor |
posted 05 February 2001 05:10
The short answer is to be cautious and to accept a significant possibility of failure. While I do not know of Zoysia Farm Nurseries, zoysia plugs can perform well under some circumstances, if you can wait 1-2 years for establishment http://www.floridaturf.com/zoysia/planting.htm For example, in North America in the transition area between the north and the south, particularly the belt from New Jersey to Missouri, zoysiagrasses can occasionally form lawn-sized area. Outside that transition belt, your chances of success are even less. In Mediterranean climates such as southern California, and even in tropical and subtropical areas if there is heavier soil such as Hawaii, the Florida Keys, and most of the West Indies, zoysia sometimes does well. The problem seems to be in warm areas with deep sands where it generally does poorly, probably due to the ravages of the sting nematode http://www.floridaturf.com/problems/twisstr2.htm The other warnings are that the seeded varieties tend to be of the coarse hairy Korean species, that are not appropriate for warm climates. Also the commonly used Meyer=Z-52=Amazoy performs poorly in Florida and possibly other warm areas. There is a high likelihood that Z-52 is the zoysiagrass that is being advertised as plugs, in which case your chances of success in Florida are about zero. El Toro has done well in warm and subtropical areas, and there are other new varieties, mostly with little track record, coming out all the time. Another possible online source for zoysia is: While there is nothing wrong per se with buying zoysia plugs from out-of-state, I think your chances of getting support will be slightly better if you purchase locally, e.g. http://floridalawn.com for those in Florida. A new variety, Empire, by http://sodsolutions.com is worth looking at. If a producer or supplier has been in business for a while, there is a chance that they will not try to talk you into something that they know is no good for your particular area. Phil
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chiczimo Friend |
posted 09 February 2001 04:18
Thank you ....would you also say that amazoy will not do well in the Columbia, S.C. area either? IP: Logged |
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seed Editor |
posted 09 February 2001 18:14
Sorry, I've never grown Amazoy in South Carolina, and I wouldn't be able to say if it would grow there. Phil IP: Logged |
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Kankakee IL resident unregistered |
posted 24 February 2001 22:15
I am interested in finding out if Zoysia grass would be a good choice for my area. I live aprox. 60 miles south of Chicago. I read on Zoysias.com that it can grow as far north as Chicago, but I was wondering how well. My father has Meyer Z52 in southern Indiana and it works well, but it is significantly colder in Kankakee. I also read about a version called Zennith which can be planted by seed. Is that similar to Z52 in that it spreads. IP: Logged |
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Greenkeeper Friend |
posted 26 February 2001 20:43
quote:Just a thought why not try buying Zoysia stolons this would have to be far easier than planting plugs.The turf farm would have to be close to were you live unless the farm can pack the stolons so they dont dry out.Have seen a golf course planted with stolons in Singapore. IP: Logged |
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pinkpigs unregistered |
posted 04 March 2001 16:34
I live in Spartanburg SC and did not have much luck with this product. I gave up on it and ordered some emerald zoysia from some sod farm on the other side of Columbia. It looks great. I think I paid $400 for a palet 2 years ago. Most of that was for having it shipped here. I think the grass itself was about $190.00. Hope this helps. quote: IP: Logged |
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just say no unregistered |
posted 09 May 2001 23:32
Just had run in with Zoysia Farms in MD -- Customer service is practically non-existent and ads are very misleading. Sod is shipped dormant i.e. BROWN and won't turn green until new growth (about 4 weeks to 45 days!) and then will turn brown again with cool weather. Won't turn green in spring until temperatures are averaging 70 degrees consistently. Guarantee is ONLY to replace product if it doesn't GROW in 45 days...no moolah returned no matter what. Think hard and do a lot of research before you consider this company or this grass. IP: Logged |
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Greengrass unregistered |
posted 12 May 2001 06:49
Zoysia grass, unfortunately will grow as far north as you are. I recently moved to the Quad Cities and purchased a home while snow was still on the ground. To my disgust, once the snow melted and the blue/rye grasses started becoming green, I was left with about four patches of brown zoysia grass that is just recently greening up. I burned one patch of the zoysia and so far the results look positive for me. I see no new zoysia and the blue grass is really going. The 3 things that bother me about zoysia: One is the uncontrollable spread of the grass. Your neighbors better be OK with it. Another is that it is green about two months of the year, the rest of the time it is brown. Lastly, it is like pushing your lawn mower through molasses. I know there are positive as well, but these negatives are more than enough for me. riginally posted by Kankakee IL resident: I am interested in finding out if Zoysia grass would be a good choice for my area. I live aprox. 60 miles south of Chicago. I read on Zoysias.com that it can grow as far north as Chicago, but I was wondering how well. My father has Meyer Z52 in southern Indiana and it works well, but it is significantly colder in Kankakee. I also read about a version called Zennith which can be planted by seed. Is that similar to Z52 in that it spreads.[/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
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young Friend |
posted 05 June 2001 16:51
I live in a city called Marina in Monterey County, CA (about 100 mi south of San Francisco). The city is near the ocean and kind of foggy and cool with sandy soil. I have about 6000 sq ft yard in my house with lots of weeds. I heard about Zoysia grass and have been doing extensive research on the web. I came up with "seed" versions of Zoysia; "zenith" & "companion" from zoysias.com or seedland.com as well as "sod" versions from other companies. Some say sod version is necessary for successful establishment while some say (improved) seed version is good enough. I prefer faster germination and establishment, but am also concerned about the cost. So, seed version looks good to me. Can somebody help me choose what product from what company? I can't figure out whose claim is trustworthy. Thanks. [This message has been edited by young (edited 05 June 2001).] [This message has been edited by young (edited 05 June 2001).] IP: Logged |
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sod buster unregistered |
posted 09 June 2001 04:25
Call Penn Seed/Super Sod in Lake City, GA(?) and hydro seed the yard. It is sooo much cheaper and from what I have seen it works well. My quotes I received are $2,800 to $3,600 for just the sod for my front yard and Zenith Zoysia hydroseeding is $800 with a full yard in one growing season. The thing about hydroseeding though is you have to buy the whole tankful which covers 10,000 to 11,000 square feet. You can increase the application rate easily. I also bought more seed to put in the pump tank to get it really thick. Just my research as I am in the same situation in Altanta. IP: Logged |
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greengal unregistered |
posted 18 June 2001 21:29
STOP......DON'T ORDER GRASS FROM THE ZOYSIA FARM IN OWING MILLS MARYLAND. I did last spring of 2000...and it was sent to me dormant and all dried up and brown...like straw from some barn! I spent 6 long hours on my own planting 1350 plugs...to end up with NOTHING. I even called the farm several times while planting making sure I wasa doing it correctly...it was so dry and hardly had any dirt attached...it fell apart in my hands...you have to cut it into small squares yourself  I felt as if I was planting a bail of dried up hay. This past spring I sodded my whole front yard with zoysia...from local sod farm...andit is awesome! I have also called up to that farm in MD and they said they will send me 1350 more plugs....no refund of my money. They are misleading and just out for the money...sad
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launwith unregistered |
posted 25 May 2002 14:39
Thanks to all of you who replied to this posting, I was looking into the zoysia but not anymore! You saved me a lot of grief, thank you! IP: Logged |
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Seeing Red unregistered |
posted 14 June 2002 21:32
Follow Greengal and Just Say No advice. Wish I had found this website before I wasted my money on plugs from Zoysia Farms. IP: Logged |
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hbosely Friend |
posted 23 June 2002 23:22
[QUOTE]Originally posted by seed: The short answer is to be cautious and to accept a significant possibility of failure. While I do not know of Zoysia Farm Nurseries, zoysia plugs can perform well under some circumstances, if you can wait 1-2 years for establishment http://www.floridaturf.com/zoysia/planting.htm For example, in North America in the transition area between the north and the south, particularly the belt from New Jersey to Missouri, zoysiagrasses can occasionally form lawn-sized area. Outside that transition belt, your chances of success are even less. In Mediterranean climates such as southern California, and even in tropical and subtropical areas if there is heavier soil such as Hawaii, the Florida Keys, and most of the West Indies, zoysia sometimes does well. The problem seems to be in warm areas with deep sands where it generally does poorly, probably due to the ravages of the sting nematode http://www.floridaturf.com/problems/twisstr2.htm The other warnings are that the seeded varieties tend to be of the coarse hairy Korean species, that are not appropriate for warm climates. Also the commonly used Meyer=Z-52=Amazoy performs poorly in Florida and possibly other warm areas. There is a high likelihood that Z-52 is the zoysiagrass that is being advertised as plugs, in which case your chances of success in Florida are about zero. El Toro has done well in warm and subtropical areas, and there are other new varieties, mostly with little track record, coming out all the time. Another possible online source for zoysia is: While there is nothing wrong per se with buying zoysia plugs from out-of-state, I think your chances of getting support will be slightly better if you purchase locally, e.g. http://floridalawn.com for those in Florida. A new variety, Empire, by http://sodsolutions.com is worth looking at. If a producer or supplier has been in business for a while, there is a chance that they will not try to talk you into something that they know is no good for your particular area. Phil
In reference to this message, I'm wondering if anyone could give me any positive or negative feedback on Empire or Empress zoysia? [This message has been edited by hbosely (edited 23 June 2002).] IP: Logged |
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jerryjer unregistered |
posted 26 August 2002 13:59
I live in NYC and I planted zoysia plugs ordered from zoysia farms. I ordered 750 at first and then ordered another 1500 2 weeks later. The first shipment I got about 10 plugs that grew but they did replace the 750 plugs. Still with all the shipments I probably have about 200 plugs growing. I am about to call them again about the second shipment. With the replacement plugs they sent I went out and bought a tulip plugger and cut the plugs to about 3" x 3" and they seem to all be growing. I think cutting them to the 1" x 1" that they send them at is the problem. [This message has been edited by jerryjer (edited 26 August 2002).] IP: Logged |
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AaronB unregistered |
posted 07 March 2003 15:21
I've been doing some research on zoysia because I'm very interested in trying it. I live in Missouri which is smack in the middle of the transition zones. We can grow cool season grasses year round, but our summers are tough on them and we can grow the warm season grasses as well, but they go dormant in our winters. Here is one site that seems like it has some pretty good information: or try this: www.lawnplugs.com This company sells their plugs as 3 inch squares, which makes better sense to me. A one inch square doesn't really leave too much to work from. Also, the variety advertised by the MD company is the same as Meyer, Z-52. They're calling it Amazoy. This is the most cold hardy zoysia grass, but it does go dormant in cold weather, so be aware of that before buying it. If you don't want a brown yard in the winter, don't buy it. If you don't care what it looks like in the winter, zoysia makes a wonderful yard in summer. IP: Logged |
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George777 Turfmaster |
posted 07 March 2003 20:54
Zoysia does well in the right climate. It is a c-4 plant and it loves hot weather. I think It does best in the south. Here in Alabama that turf is awesome if maintained right. I would not try to put a plant that is not abdapted to your zone in the landscape. Check with your local county extension office and see what they say. IP: Logged |
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Victor unregistered |
posted 12 March 2003 16:38
quote: 40 years ago as a kid I ordered 200 plugs of I think it was Meyer Zoyzia and planted it in my mothers lawn. I went back to Long Island in New York a couple of years ago and now the whole neighborhood has Zoyzia. It spread to any soil that was not physically disconnected from our property by a road or sidewalk. IP: Logged |
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TJ unregistered |
posted 13 March 2003 10:42
Would this be good in the Cleveland, Ohio area? Wondering if anyone knows anybody that tried the Zoysia Farm mail order grass in Ohio. Did it work, I was thinking about it for my lawn. IP: Logged |
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Roll Tide Will unregistered |
posted 27 March 2003 18:54
Don't we all wish that companies were required to tell the truth in their advertisements? Not just a hint of the truth, but the whole truth without any doublespeak, or hidden meanings. We have considered many types of grass for our yard. Cost is an issue, as I am retired. The upside to being retired is that I have the time to work with the yard. Unfortunately, our yard has several different types of grass. It appears as if over the years the various residents have thrown seed or even sodded different areas. There are areas of Bermuda, rye, Zoysia, etc. The most interesting thing is that there was a huge bare area in the front yard. It took us about a month, but after basically turning the top of the ground over using a shovel, then plugging grass from other parts of the yard, we now have a mostly green front yard. It does appear a little strange when the yard is at its greenest. The many shades of green make things interesting. We've jokingly threatened to plug monkey grass throughout the entire yard. At least then I know the grass will always be green, and nothing can kill it. IP: Logged |
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amazoy rip-off unregistered |
posted 02 April 2003 19:38
I did order the "amazoy" from the ad in a magazine and it was a total rip-off. I ordered the 625 plugs with 125 free and all I got was four 2ft x 1ft pieces of sod, not plugs. To put it into perspective I could have had a pallet of zoysia delivered to my home for $165.00. I tried to plug it the way they recommended, but it was way too hard. They say the plugs should be 1 inch x 1 inch. I'm not sure if they even know what a one inch piece of grass looks like. Do yourself a favor and do not buy this scam. IP: Logged |
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Lync12 unregistered |
posted 05 April 2003 09:10
I ordered from Zoysia Farms MD in February. Haven't received the plugs. How long did it take before you received the them? With the listed info, my order doesn't sound very promising.
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mrC Friend |
posted 09 April 2003 08:57
To Lync12 and anybody considering to purchase this grass Im from the central valley in California. About 2 years ago, I ordered the 625 plug pkg, in mid February, I didn't receive it until end of April. And like everybody else in this forum, it arrived dried, mostly brown and almost dead. The instructions said to immediately soak it down and let it recover for about 24 hours. Well I did that and then planted them in an area cleared of any grass or weeds just for the occasion. I figured keeping them all together instead of plugging them an inch apart would better its survival rate. Well long story short, they never survived, and that area was overrun by bermuda grass and weeds within a month. I was going to order another pkg set this morning since I'm starting a new lawn this year, but fortunately, I found this forum and have read most of the comments and have come to the conclusion that its not a good of a deal as it really sounds. The dream of a super low maintenance lawn is just that....a dream. IP: Logged |
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babydoll unregistered |
posted 09 April 2003 13:34
quote: Can anyone give me the address or number to the mail order company for the zoysia farm in MD- There were ads in the Sunday paper, but I have misplaced it and for the past two weeks thee has been none. Any help would be appreciated. IP: Logged |
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happytoro5 unregistered |
posted 12 April 2003 13:41
Thank You all for your input on Zoysia Farm Nurseries out of MD, you just saved me some money by not ordering zoysia plugs. Can anyone advice me as to what type of grass to grow in colo. during drought conditions? Bluegrass is out of the question since it requires a lot of water and we are restricted to watering 2 days a week. Any input would be appreciated. IP: Logged |
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Brand unregistered |
posted 14 April 2003 14:12
I live in New Mexico (Albuquerque) and am considering Zoysia because of it's resistance to drought. We basically have sand for soil, I am guessing I will need to put in a few inches of topsoil. Does anyone know how it would do here? We have a lot of sun and the days are warm but the nights can get pretty cold. Also, If I got the 3x3" plugs can they be planted right next to each other? I am putting in a new lawn. Thanks! IP: Logged |
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Kevster unregistered |
posted 14 April 2003 20:46
quote: Throw in the fact that Empire Zoysia does better than Meyer and this is a no brainer - do not buy the 1x1 plugs from here - you are much better off with 3x3 Empire zoysia. IP: Logged |
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whanna unregistered |
posted 18 April 2003 18:36
I have been gradully doing my yard in Meyer Zoysia over the years and getting it from Maryland. I love the grass and it does well in Delaware. However, I reasonly placed my order for this year with a request for it to be delivered during a two week time slot,which I thought was reasonable. They returned my check and said that was impossible since they deliver when they can. Looking for a place in New Jersey. IP: Logged |
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Kyle unregistered |
posted 22 April 2003 21:14
2 years ago we ordered almost 2000 plugs from Amazoy and plugged thing into a fairly good sized square in our back yard. It was the best thing we have done. That block of yard has the best grass in our back yard, virtually weed free, and doesn't need as much mowing. They spread wonderfully. At first when there were shipped half brown/green I was sceptical, but they turned out great! I would recommend them. Plugging is hard and tedious, but it is well worth it in the end. IP: Logged |
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fltnite Friend |
posted 09 May 2003 17:18
quote: If you are considering Zoysia grass, Duda farms in Rockledge has sod available. go to sodsolutions.com and you will find the link to the Duda site. Good Luck!!! IP: Logged |
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Lex unregistered |
posted 25 May 2003 05:58
Bethel Farms in central Florida also has zoysia (empire and empress). They have been helpful with follow up questions. Bethel, however, does not sell direct to home owners. Good luck all. IP: Logged |
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frogment unregistered |
posted 05 June 2003 09:23
I recently purchased 2400 plugs from Zoysia Farm Nurseries. The grass came in 15"x10" sod sections, each sod section had the 1"x1" perforations. The condition of the sod was moist and green for the most part, tending torward dry and brown near the very edges. I had difficulty cutting the sod up into the suggested 1"x1". The planting of 2400 pieces was hard labor, I recommend buying smaller quantities unless there is more than 1 person doing the planting. I also recommend cutting into 2"x2" or whatever fits into the hole made by the enclosed plugger.This reduces the labor and has an excellent yield. Anyway the results are good. I have planted these plugs into the worst areas of my lawn, horrible soil/road salt contaminated areas and these plugs are coming along quite nicely after 4 weeks. They are the only thing that has been able to survive in these locations. At first they didn't appear that they would make it (mostly browned out) but I persisted in the 3 week daily waterings and they are now showing green leaves and spreading roots. Looking forward to a plush low maintainance lawn. So what if it turns brown in winter, it was dead all year round before. By the way, my father planted some zoysia plugs 20 years ago and his lawn has become just as advertised, plush, durable grass with minimal lawncutting and watering required. IP: Logged |
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seed Editor |
posted 06 June 2003 07:18
frogment, can you please give us some particulars about your planting site? State or country? Soil sandy, loamy, or something else? Shade or sun? Thanks for sharing your experiences, IP: Logged |
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frogment unregistered |
posted 06 June 2003 12:10
Seed, here are some particulars on my location. My lawn is in northeast Massachusetts. The planting locations are varied as I have planted the plugs strictly in areas of the lawn that have not responded to my fruitless attempts at growing grass for the past six years. The first qualifier is that the builder of the house never put down a proper layer of loam for starters. The ground is essentially ledge topped off with a layer of hard, rocky, nutrient-free dirt. The areas that I have planted zoysia included both constant sunlight and partial sunlight (approximately 3 hours of sunlight per day. Since I was never big on waterring the lawn as you would expect the constant sun areas were always the most troublesome in the dry Massachusetts summers. In addition to intense sunlight some of the areas also suffer from winter salt/sand from close proximity to the road as well as being on a slope. The general comment I would make is that the plugs are prospering regardless of the particular deleterious environemtal effects that they are subject to. If I were to take a guess at why some of them did not make it it was because they were not in very good condition when I planted them... there were some dried out areas near the sod edges which looked like longshots to succeed but I planted them anyway. I would estimate that 90% of the plugs have taken root, its been 4 weeks since they were planted and they sat around my house for 2 days before I got them into the ground. So I am satisfied with the results and intend to purchase some more plugs now that I have seen good results on this first batch IP: Logged |
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mom23blessings unregistered |
posted 13 June 2003 08:17
We ordered zoyia plugs from this company. When are in a dispute with them now. Actually through our credit card company. They are charging them back and handling it. They are not what they say they are and they have not grown at all!! I would highly recommend NOT using this company based on my personal experience! IP: Logged |
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spOOk unregistered |
posted 17 August 2003 19:31
I have tried plugs from various order houses with hit and miss quality. Finally gave up and made a home-made 3" x 3" plugger (about 1 hour) and bought local zoysia sod via palet. Placed the sod out on the lawn with sprinkler and kicked out entire palet in aprox. 2 hours. Used the same plugger for the lawn holes, with being exact fit and size planting was quite rapid. The leaves never did go brown!!. Just FYI - email me if you would like info or picks on plugger. IP: Logged |
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spOOk unregistered |
posted 17 August 2003 19:32
hehe - guess email address would help rsix2@hotmail.com IP: Logged |
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volbuck unregistered |
posted 22 October 2003 09:04
I live in TN and purchased the amazoy from the MD nursery this spring. When I received the grass like many others have said it was half green and half brown and just pieces of sod. It had to be cut into the plugs. I started planting according to their directions but as I proceeded I decided to do things a little different. I began to cut the plugs into larger pieces. It is also important to water the sod prior to cutting it. The grass turned brown and I thought it was dead. After about six weeks, they started to grow green sprouts. As of right now the places I have plugged (I plugged in existing grass, weeds, ect.) are difficult to see but in areas that are relatively bare are easily seen. The plugs that I have cut larger around 2 x 2 have done much better. Those plugs are probably around 4 x 4. This grass grows very slow which is one of the most desireable traits once it is established. Conversely it is a disadvantage to getting the yard established. I don't think my mower cut a single blade of the amazoy. Most of its growth has been outward. Many of the plugs have several runners sprouting from them. I will be interested to see what happens next year. I am planning on just buying some sod from a local store or farm and cutting it into plugs myself this spring. I want to get my yard established as fast as possible. Buying sod yourself and cutting it into plugs is much cheaper than ordering the plugs. My soil is TN red clay. I hope this helps. IP: Logged |
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