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twotonkat
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posted 28 November 2003 10:49           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in Loganville, GA (about 40 miles E of Atlanta) and have a coarse gravelly soil. I initally planted fescue to get quick coverage but do not like it due to constant maintenance and reseeding twice a year. I purchased a large quantity of plugs from Zoysia Farm Nurseries about 6 years ago. We have just come out of a 5 year drought. I watered the plugs regularly the first two summers and occasionally since just to keep them alive. Some of the area is heavily shaded by thirsty Oaks. To my surprise, many of the plugs have survived in the dry areas and are slowly spreading even in the shade. In the sunny areas, the fescue and weeds are gone and a thick sod covers the ground. I agree with others that say larger plugs would work better and cutting them apart is a pain. For me the work was worth it and I had no problems with ZFN.

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Alex_in_FL (Lex)
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posted 08 December 2003 16:25           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Zoysia update:

Empress zoysia is looking good. Grass is thick and neighbors that enter my back yard and see it are bad jealous. So thin and fun to walk in with bare feet. Few weeds except some nutsedge I did not get killed off before putting the zoysia down. But I am gaining control of it slowly.

In one area the floratam and zoysia are battling it out but zoysia will win this summer when I spray it with 2,4D or similar.

The empress is spreading fine and faster than expected. It is Dec here in Florida but no sign of going dormant yet. Color is getting slightly green/tan but still reasonably green. Probably would be much greener if I watered it more.

Note to all. If you get bill bugs then remember it is a 2 year fight (I forgot). You have to kill the bugs, the grubs, and then when eggs hatch kill grubs and bugs again. So if you had bill bugs, spray that area again to ensure control. I had a short rematch and will have to spray again this spring.

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posted 04 March 2004 17:24           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thankyou so much for the advice. I was just looking into purchasing from that same company. I am so glad I came across this information first. Thanks again.

~SKW~

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Originally posted by greengal:
STOP......DON'T ORDER GRASS FROM THE ZOYSIA FARM IN OWING MILLS MARYLAND. I did last spring of 2000...and it was sent to me dormant and all dried up and brown...like straw from some barn! I spent 6 long hours on my own planting 1350 plugs...to end up with NOTHING. I even called the farm several times while planting making sure I wasa doing it correctly...it was so dry and hardly had any dirt attached...it fell apart in my hands...you have to cut it into small squares yourself <IMG SRC="http://turftalk.com/ubb/frown.gif"> I felt as if I was planting a bail of dried up hay. This past spring I sodded my whole front yard with zoysia...from local sod farm...andit is awesome! I have also called up to that farm in MD and they said they will send me 1350 more plugs....no refund of my money. They are misleading and just out for the money...sad <IMG SRC="http://turftalk.com/ubb/frown.gif">

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miss muffin
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posted 05 March 2004 14:21           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kyle:
2 years ago we ordered almost 2000 plugs from Amazoy and plugged thing into a fairly good sized square in our back yard. It was the best thing we have done. That block of yard has the best grass in our back yard, virtually weed free, and doesn't need as much mowing. They spread wonderfully. At first when there were shipped half brown/green I was sceptical, but they turned out great! I would recommend them. Plugging is hard and tedious, but it is well worth it in the end.

Kyle - Where do you live? That seems to be key in the posted messages. Also what kind of soil do you have?

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angel123
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posted 14 March 2004 13:38     Click Here to See the Profile for angel123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are interested in zoysia plugs but how is it for northern Ohio and sandy soil?
Do you have to get rid of the moles first?
We just can't seem to grow grass even though we seed and all that other things that go with taking care of your lawn.It seems like every year when our grass starts to look green the moles take over. HELP! Any suggestions?

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mpveepee
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posted 15 March 2004 13:49           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have ordered from them in the past on numerous occasions and have had very good experiences with them. They are reasonably priced, quick to ship, and offer a great product

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gardenhobby
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posted 08 May 2004 14:01           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in Utah and am looking for a drought resistant lawn solution. I was looking into Zoysia Grass, but no one that I have talked to in my area knows if we have the right climate. We are in Zone 5 so winters can get moderatly cold with snow. Our average last frost date is mid May. If I choose Zoysia will it stay brown untill mid May? Or is there a varity that greens up faster? Also are all varities invasive? I would like to keep my flower beds flowers. If Zoysia is not the answer is there any grass that is drought tolerant, but not overly invasive?

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ted
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posted 08 May 2004 18:41           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you're too cold for zoysia- not green enough, long enough. proper mowing and smart watering, and nutrient management via soil tests will save on your watering needs, for sure.

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MOBILEAL
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posted 13 May 2004 08:32           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mobile Alabama,
Plugged 2000 plugs of amazoy from md. Followed instructions they sent exactly.
planted in existing lawn. Planted June 2003. Planted a few extra squares in large plugs in August. The smaller plugs are still hard to see but the larger ones are still alive. Soil is mixture of dark soil and some sand. The jury is still out for me. I have some bare spots I was thinking about plugging in some more. I will keep you posted.

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fallon222
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posted 13 May 2004 10:39           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In regards to getting zoysia sod in Jersey, I found one place in Southern Jersey. $2 a sq ft. Let me know if you are still intrested, lol. Seems a bit outrageous to me...

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edosan
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posted 13 July 2004 12:58     Click Here to See the Profile for edosan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by fallon222:
In regards to getting zoysia sod in Jersey, I found one place in Southern Jersey. $2 a sq ft. Let me know if you are still intrested, lol. Seems a bit outrageous to me...

Fallon22 .. where in New Jersey??

Ed

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NewLawnInFXBG
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posted 17 July 2004 18:31     Click Here to See the Profile for NewLawnInFXBG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just moved to Fredericksburg, VA. The home builder gave me what they call a "starter lawn"...crappy seed covered with hay, all of which blew into little isolated piles in the April winds. Add to this they never put the topsoil back, so my lot was "prime Virginia red clay" to start off with. The seed came up in patches where it blew to. After a lot of reseeding with the seed (from a local store of course) recommended by the builder, I have about 60% crab grass (maybe it's actually centipede grass), with patches of thin grass from the seed that has since gone dormant for the summer, despite frequent watering. The seed I plant grows, but not fast enough or thick enough to beat the weeds. We've had a fair amount of rain here, but the summer sun is HOT, and bakes the ground pretty quickly even after a good watering the night before.

I've been thinking a lot about zoysia. After reading some of the horror stories hear about plugs, I'll probably re-seed with zoysia next spring. My question is: can anyone in central VA or Wash DC area give me their experience with zoysia...especially if your soil is all clay like mine.


Thanks!

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tsnofvdr
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posted 10 August 2004 12:59     Click Here to See the Profile for tsnofvdr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NewLawnInFXBG:

I to live in the fredericksburg area and i have the same problem. Im looking to lay zoysia sod or plugs next spring. I have read most of the comments on the site and was hoping someone could tell me were i could get the best sod or plugs.

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Originally posted by NewLawnInFXBG:
I have just moved to Fredericksburg, VA. The home builder gave me what they call a "starter lawn"...crappy seed covered with hay, all of which blew into little isolated piles in the April winds. Add to this they never put the topsoil back, so my lot was "prime Virginia red clay" to start off with. The seed came up in patches where it blew to. After a lot of reseeding with the seed (from a local store of course) recommended by the builder, I have about 60% crab grass (maybe it's actually centipede grass), with patches of thin grass from the seed that has since gone dormant for the summer, despite frequent watering. The seed I plant grows, but not fast enough or thick enough to beat the weeds. We've had a fair amount of rain here, but the summer sun is HOT, and bakes the ground pretty quickly even after a good watering the night before.

I've been thinking a lot about zoysia. After reading some of the horror stories hear about plugs, I'll probably re-seed with zoysia next spring. My question is: can anyone in central VA or Wash DC area give me their experience with zoysia...especially if your soil is all clay like mine.


Thanks!


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cyndi3025@yahoo.com
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posted 14 August 2004 17:43           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in Sacramento CA and have been concidering Zoysia grass plugs for my yard. I have been seeing alot of conflicting info and would appericiate some help.

At least 6 hrs of sun per day.
Soil is a heavy loam.
Summer daytime temps to 110
Winter day temp 50 nights in low 40s

Thanks for any ifo you can give

Cyndi

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ljduke
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posted 30 August 2004 10:49           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live in southeast Michigan and planted zoysia plugs around May. Was a lot of work and never saw any spreading or much green. Called Zoysia Farms in MD and they sent all new replacements. I planted these in larger squares and they appear to be green but no new growth. Bottom line, we had a cool, wet spring and summer which may have contributed to the lack of growth. I found the company easy to deal with but unless I see something happen next year I will put off endorsing this product.

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iwantzoysia
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posted 04 September 2004 11:02           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you live in southern NJ, I reoommend Gem's Zoysia Farm. I had to cut the sod myself into suqares, but I used bigger ones than recommended (2x2 and 3x3 plugs). The sod came mostly green. It has been over three weeks and the zoysia is completely green and seems to be expanding a little. hopefully it can spread before it goes dormant in the fall.

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jpaulfoley
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posted 15 September 2004 20:28           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I ordered one tray of Zoysia grass to plant in Boston, from the place in MD. Yes it was all brown [dormant], but as I remember seeing in Long Island in April/May a house that had this golden brown lawn that had no bare spots at all it was perfect except it was golden and not green. Anyway, I planted this in 1" plugs at least 5 years ago. I forgot about it. And have moved from my parents house 4 years ago. In April I went back an noticed the section I plugged [in a weird shape] was all golden brown. I went back this past week in September it was green, thick, low whearas regular grass is long, clumpy, and no kids are around to pay to mow. I may try to plant large plugs now. I guess it just takes a while to establish in Boston area.

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KBinMD
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posted 21 September 2004 20:20           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I live approx 40 miles from ZFN. I have used their plugs in my previous house with very good results. Meyer Z. is the most cold tolerant, not the fastest spreading Z. I just planted their 300 plugs. I too cut them 2x2 or larger. I make the holes slightly larger and partially fill the holes with fertile soil/compost with a dose of starter firt. to get them started. I make sure to pack the soil around the plugs good. Water every day for the first 2/3 weeks lightly until established. AS for their mail order service I can not say. And even when I pick my plugs up, some of the sod is brown/dormant. They say they only ship in your growing season. Beats me. Good Luck!

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totaly_unique@hotmail.com
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posted 09 March 2005 13:38           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can this zoysia grass be grown in salt lake city? north western U.S.

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JimHale
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posted 25 March 2005 18:08           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought amazoy plugs from Lowes Lumber company three years ago. I only bought enough for the center of my yard and now it has covered my entire yard. My wife loves to walk on it barefooted. We live in Middle Tennessee and have a lot of red clay dirt.It has virtually eliminated all of the weeds associated with this part of the country. I would recommended only one thing (patience).

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Anne
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posted 31 March 2005 19:37           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by angel123:
We are interested in zoysia plugs but how is it for northern Ohio and sandy soil?
Do you have to get rid of the moles first?
We just can't seem to grow grass even though we seed and all that other things that go with taking care of your lawn.It seems like every year when our grass starts to look green the moles take over. HELP! Any suggestions?

Angel...I feel your pain.We lived in Madison Ohio, and every spring I could cry with the damage that the moles caused to our lawn.I tried every thing from ammonia,to herbals.I did invest in anexpensive treatment that takes two years, and provides a slow release to kill the bugs that the moles eat its at Lowes, Champions, Home Depot. Also my friends next door had two cats that were adepy at catching the little buggers.We moved to NC, and NO MOLES in our acre of garden, however bob cats, and the occassional mountain lion check us out, but that is another story, good luck

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tomw
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I plan on buying emperor or emerald zoysia locally and pluging it into my yard. Will it really grow through bermuda or should I kill the existing lawn first? I have read it will choke out the bermuda but have also heard it will leave patches of bermuda. Also, which variety would you say works best? i am in texas so hot summers/mild winters.

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lexus7831
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posted 10 April 2005 08:10           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do not use zoysia grass in Northern VA or anywhere north unless you are prepared to have a dead yellow lawn from Sept to late April. Do not use turf builder or any other fertilizer, it will cause any weed or hidden grass from the soil to pop up inbetween your zoysia. I hate this lawn, it is an embarrassment to the neighborhood! People drive by and wonder what is wrong with my lawn!!! This is meant for the south, and Virginia is not South enough.
Residence is in Fredericksburg, VA

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Yamahauler
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posted 11 April 2005 07:27           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question: I understand that zoysia is nice to walk on when green. Is it still nice to walk on when golden, or does it start to feel like dry straw? One preparation step I've read on www.zoysiafarms.com in Md. was to alter the PH before planting. Zoysia likes the PH between 6 & 7. I'm under a lot of trees and just spread pelletized lime. I orderd "625 Plugs + 125 Free! With FREE Plugger" - $31.95 (+ $11.85 S&H). My yard is total weeds after two years of seeding, spreading top soil, reseeding. I won't care about the dormant color.

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Can anyone give me the address or number to the mail order company for the zoysia farm in MD- There were ads in the Sunday paper, but I have misplaced it and for the past two weeks thee has been none. Any help would be appreciated.

-REPLY-zoysia farm nurseries,dept.850--general offices & store-3617 old taneytown road.taneytown,md.21787---www.ZoysiaFarms.com/mag..im moving to north/central florida...let me know how things work out...thanks...magazine reader

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posted 19 April 2005 07:09     Click Here to See the Profile for jason     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tomw:
I plan on buying emperor or emerald zoysia locally and pluging it into my yard. Will it really grow through bermuda or should I kill the existing lawn first? I have read it will choke out the bermuda but have also heard it will leave patches of bermuda. Also, which variety would you say works best? i am in texas so hot summers/mild winters.

I live in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and I will be plugging my yard with Amazoy soon. I would be interested to see what others think about plugging over Bermuda. My yard is very thin right now, but I'll let everyone know how it goes.

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larnc
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posted 23 April 2005 22:19           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My neighbor's zoysia is invading my lawn. Does anyone know how to stop it?

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RLines
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My neighbor's zoysia is invading my lawn. Does anyone know how to stop it?


I find that hard to believe. You must have a very weak lawn. Zoysia can be impossible to get rid of once it is established, but taking over an existing lawn is ridiculous. It grows SOOOO slow. What kind of lawn do you have? If it is St. Augustine or Bermuda and healthy, then there is no reason why this should happen. Both of those grasses grow twice as fast as Zoysia.

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dar
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My neighbor's zoysia is invading my lawn. Does anyone know how to stop it?

Umm...according to their website under one of the tabbed areas it says to avoid having the stolons creep across to install a six inch border deep into the ground...I have no idea if this will work..it's just what I read. Also, this is very interesting. I was considering doing the plugging now I'm not so sure..anyone try this is Pennsylvania??

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I bought some AMAZOY Zoysia plugs and didnt do my home work first , I have just ordered them (250 plugs) for a small patch next to my driveway. I do not want brown grass at any time durring the year so I should have looked before I leaped. But I do live in Central Ca. (Santa Nella, Ca) it very rarely gets below 40 degrees and gets over 100 in the summer, If we do get frost it is gone quickly and it is extremly rare. What are the chances I would have a green lawn year round? Is there any of you out there able to keep your AMAZOY Zoysia grass green year round? Please give my some feedback on this issue, I am new to this as I am first time home buyer and dont know much about lawns. Thanks

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posted 11 May 2005 09:56           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have got to be kidding, zoysia is notorious for invading neighboring lawns. I live in Northern Virginia and our fescues don't stand a chance. Please consult your neighbor before planting zoysia or you will have a conflict in a few years.

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Originally posted by RLines:

I find that hard to believe. You must have a very weak lawn. Zoysia can be impossible to get rid of once it is established, but taking over an existing lawn is ridiculous. It grows SOOOO slow. What kind of lawn do you have? If it is St. Augustine or Bermuda and healthy, then there is no reason why this should happen. Both of those grasses grow twice as fast as Zoysia.

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I have St. Augustine in My Front Yard, Palisades Zoysia in My Back Yard, and Common Bermuda in the easement next to me. I have seen first hand how the growth rates are. Zoysia is slower than both. My point was that Zoysia (ONCE ESTABLISHED) is a very aggressive grass in that it has stolons underground and is VERY thick.
I think it is the classic hare and the turtle story. the turtle is going to win out by slow and steady growth. It's not going to happen overnight though. Eventually, maybe over years, the Zoysia will take over.


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Originally posted by djb:
You have got to be kidding, zoysia is notorious for invading neighboring lawns. I live in Northern Virginia and our fescues don't stand a chance. Please consult your neighbor before planting zoysia or you will have a conflict in a few years.


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posted 29 May 2005 16:12           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Need Help: Have emeraly zoysia in lawn.
Was very pretty last year thick and green.
This year it looks as if it is dead - (S.C)
thin and brown. My yard does have shade
but it has done well in previous years.
How do I make it thick and green again
for this summer??

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posted 05 June 2005 11:53           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you in South Carolina? If so, what's your location?

Emerald Zoysia does OK under shade, but prefers full sun. Depending on your location, you might want to try Creeping Red Fescue. It can live with 2-3 hours of sun light, while Emerald Zoysia requires at least 6 hours or more.

El Toro, or Zenith Zoysia can take 3-4 hours for sun, and stay somewhat dense. No grass can grow under total shade.

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posted 09 June 2005 06:26           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all so much for your comments. I was just beginning to consider purchasing amazoy plugs from Zoysia farms in MD when I decided to search for more inormation on the web. After reading the testimonies, I am convinced that it would be a waste of money. I have a policy of not trusting companies that do not stand behind their products. I was foolishly assuming they were trustworthy because I received an ad in the Springhill Farm Nurseries order(a company that does back their product). Thanks again for sharing your experiences so that others may learn!

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my lawn is all tall fescue. is it possible to simply overseed with zoysia?

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posted 17 June 2005 09:32           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope. You will fail miserbly. It's a lot of work... First you have to kill the existing lawn with round up, scalp it, rake up, ammend the soil (slightly acidic soil supposedly works better), i thunk spread starter fertilizer as well to promote quicker root growth then spread Zenith seeds and slightly rake them to no more than 1/4 inches deep. I suppose slightly spreading fine sand over them could work. You also will have to water 3-5 times a day just to keep the soil DAMP, not excessive wet for 3 weeks or so when they finally germinate.

Ryegrasses are alot easier to grow.. All I had to do was throw seeds down and do nothing else.

Putting down Zoysia sods sound a lot better but probably too expensive for you.

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I live it PA and someone near has zoysia grass and yes it's (Hay)yellow in the winter BUT, in the summer they have the best lawn around! Thick ... soft green grass; while we have bare spots from the heat & lack of rain in the summmer. I'll live with the hay color ... some of the time it's covered with snow and I'm not out there that much anyway! BUt, please give me some grass for the good ole' summer time!
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Originally posted by lexus7831:
Do not use zoysia grass in Northern VA or anywhere north unless you are prepared to have a dead yellow lawn from Sept to late April. Do not use turf builder or any other fertilizer, it will cause any weed or hidden grass from the soil to pop up inbetween your zoysia. I hate this lawn, it is an embarrassment to the neighborhood! People drive by and wonder what is wrong with my lawn!!! This is meant for the south, and Virginia is not South enough.
Residence is in Fredericksburg, VA

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I live in lower Mich. and planted Zoysia plugs two years ago. In my opinion, Zoysia just takes too long to spread. I started out planting the small plugs and eventually started planting larger ones. As of right now, the larger ones look OK but there is still too much space between them. When they are green the grass looks as advertised, plush, soft, nice color, etc. My only complaint is the waiting. They did say 3-5 years and I'll give it another year or two before I scrap the whole thing and just plant seed.

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When I think of the countless cash spent on Scott's fertilizers, weed killers etc etc year after year, and for what? - a crabgrass display.

I'm doing Zoysia. So what the lawn is brown in the winter, I think it makes a nice contrast. All I know is that it has to be mowed less,(read: less gas to buy) so I have time to do other things.

Weeds are non -existant in the back where it was established before I bought the house. I can count on saving $$ every season.(Good ridance to Scott's BS)

The more plugs you plant the faster it will fill in. It grows in the Northeast, but I am not sure as to what type.

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