All was fine until this spring and the change over back to the bob-sod. It didn't come back except in sparse areas.
It was my fault,
A. i didn't water it correctly to establish a deep enough root system, and
B. i detached it myself, incorrectly, ripping out most of the stolons.

I had the sod grower come take a look, he said it was shot and would NOT spread.

So i killed what was left of the bob-sod with roundup.

BACK to dirt.
Yard is in the back of and east west facing home( back to the west).
lots of sun from noon on. BUT there is a Arizona ash tree at one end that partially shades during the heat of the day.

Winter rye seems to be grow fine, and i plan on reseed that as soon as it it will stay viable.
i don't want to lay sod again.
What i need to find is something in seed form that will grow and survive the heat, sun and slight partial shade in the summer.
I would like to have something that is very dense and soft like a tiff variety.
tiff is a Bermuda correct? i should be able to find a "seedable" variety shouldn't i?

Any experiences or suggestions.

BTW, as soon as i can convince the wife the ash tree is just a PITA ( it ws trimmed wrong by the first owner and look like heck) IT is coming down

[This message has been edited by Brando (edited 26 August 2009).]

Might try a wide-bladed Zoysia assuming
the Arizona plant police allow it in your state.
Cavalier zoysia is fine leaved similar to bermudagrass

http://www.preferredlandscapetx.com/galleries/plants/images/picture_200.jpg
I personally prefer a wide blade (Palisade zoysia)
that is very vertical and cuts well with a rotary mower.